Thank you for this fascinating peek behind the scenes![1] I regret my comment about suggesting working with Windows, and I sincerely apologize for it, because clearly you’re like a duck![2]
While checking with the manual, I also realized that the two-emoji problem wasn’t intentional, because your screenshot had a cook and my system doesn’t. Ah. It dawned on me what was going on.
I then spent some time to modify my folder names and edit the notes to be “just right” for me, and I am certain that is going to bite me as soon as your next cool version arrives. That’s a tomorrow problem because my names must be compatible with cmd batch files that don’t like Unicode nor emojis; so plaintext for me, please Thank you also for the excellent Obsidian plugin – I’m new to that tool and there’s so much to learn.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write all that. It is tremendously interesting to read!!
Your writing style and frequent footnotes remind me of the late and great Terry Pratchett. ↩︎
“Calm on the surface, and paddle like hell underneath.” ↩︎
While I don’t have any children, my wife will almost certainly be sharing a system with me (in agreement with Personal AND a shared system?) so I’m trying to future proof it so it includes her and any future kids. Duplicating 11 🙋 Me & other living things for each person makes sense, where anything that could be in more than one person’s Category (11.60 ■ Pets & other animals 🐓 and marriage related documents for a married couple are what come to mind) follows the rule to put it in the first place it matches, being Category 11 (as you said). Families with more than five members are going to find themselves out of categories in the 10-19 Life admin area though. Does it expand to become 10-29 Become Life & Family admin in that case, or do family members 2-10 go in 20-29 Family Member Admin while family member 1 stays in 11?
The travel, finances, and where we live categories could probably be shared without too much trouble, at least until children/adolescents start having finances of their own (At which point it’s probably time to start helping them get organized with their own system, but that will include overlap between parents and kids systems. Another problem for another day year). One issue I see do is 14 💻 My online life. Does this get duplicated for each person as well or shared with everyone? 14.10 ■ Computers & other devices 🖥️ would be simple enough to just have all together (other than maybe accessories), but 14.20 ■ Software & accounts 🔑 could get messy fast, and possibly 14.30 ■ My online presence 🌏 as well. Any thoughts on how to deal with that?
Yeah that’d work okay if you knew ahead of time that there were going to be 6+ of you.
(Good lord that’s unimaginable to me! Haha. But I knew a girl who was one of six sisters. Her poor dad…)
Hmm it depends … my instinct is to keep it simple and just keep one. Otherwise are you really going to remember whose folder that thing was in?
The other way you could expand this is ‘from the back’, which is a new website page that is currently 80% written on this laptop here. Give us a couple of days and the whole 13 Multiple systems category on the site is going to be updated to 13 Expanded systems, which should give you lots more options.
I’ll pop up a blog post when that goes live and cross-post that to the forum.
Hello,
I’m starting to use the Quick Start guide. I’m completly new at this.
I would like to put my index in workflowy. The index text file looks great, but would be super with the “explaination”. It would look somehow like this:
10-19 Life admin
11 Me & other living things
11.00 ■ System management
This category is all about you, and other things that have a beating heart: your family, friends, and pets.
If you have a lot going on in this category you might need to expand your system (see the website, workbook, or workshop).
e.g. your health situation is complicated, managing your children’s care, schooling, and activities takes a lot of effort.
11.01 Inbox
Do you have a file like that? Or a workaround?
Thank you in advance,
Marie
So to clarify (as I don’t use Workflowy), you’re looking for a single file with the structure and descriptive text for all items? I should be able to put that together pretty easily … then does Workflowy have an import feature?
I just tried copy/pasting the text from your note there (I just signed up for Workflowy) and it appeared as a single thing, I assume that’s not what we’re after. Also doesn’t look like it handles emoji?
I’ve been thinking about using Workflowy too for my JDex. I’ve used it before but not for a long time.
I used the .txt JDex file in the pack, copy and pasted it into Workflowy and its gone over perfectly.
One of the things I like about Workflowy is that you can zoom into each bullet point so you only see what you need to if you are focussing
@Marie, you can simply copy the contents of the file Variants - only use these if you know you need to\Files to create your JDex\00.00 Index\index.txt into your Workflowy. You don’t even have to manually indent it after the paste.
@johnnydecimal, Workflowy is basically a glorified outliner, so you can have nodes within nodes within nodes. You can add a memo text within each node, and the first line is always shown; all lines are shown if you click into the memo.
Workflowy is not a file storage tool, but it works excellently as an index, and I have built the folder structure in my file system to match this, which I then use for file storage.
I would like to get the whole JDex – descriptive text & all – in to Workflowy, but I haven’t found a nicer way other than copy/pasting the rich text from Bear. That gives me this, which I’ll be filling out over the next few days.
Update: Workflowy is nice eh! I’ve never used it. I’ve pasted the structure in. See how this works, feedback welcome.
I’m happy that you like it; I hope this doesn’t upset all your nicely laid plans for the week and as I mentioned, I’m a veteran user so would be happy to answer any questions.
I think it would make sense to have Workflowy discussions in its own topic inside 31 Apps, to keep this one on the topic of Life admin?
As you’ll notice, Workflowy probably works best when you use the nodes for actual user content, so you might want to put the category/id descriptions and other “meta” text in a memo? Or keep it as you have it, as a user guide and template, and expect users to replace those descriptive nodes with their own actual content nodes.
Booze. So I’m about to order a case of wine. Nothing fancy, but I want to make a quick note.
The more likely scenario is that you have a cellar full of nice wine that you want to track. Or maybe you brew beer. @Alex has both so, even though he doesn’t use LA, I’ll ping him.
This feels naturally close to food:
10-19 Life admin
12 Where I live and how I get around 🏡
12.40 ■ My kitchen & garden 🪴
The last ID there is 12.44 Meals & recipes. Thoughts on 12.45 Alcohol or something like it?
I have a slight advantage here, because my wine is a collection, and I brew beer. These both fit nicely into hobbies and have their own categories.
So wherever your hobbies go, you can put all these things. If you don’t brew the simplest solution is to start brewing and you can use 11.82. If not you’ll have to keep beer and wine in your closest food-related category, which could be somewhere in 12.40 if you expand it to include drinking as well as eating.
I do regular things with my youngest, for example on a Monday we go to soft play and have dinner at the soft play place and we have to reserve a table well in advance.
There are one off parties and activities such as halloween parties, messy church, discos etc. Specific events to when children are off of school. Soon it will be Christmas parties and events.
School break activities, camps, just general days out. I know this goes into 15 but not sure where. I see them as sanity saving events tbh LOL.
@johnnydecimal I am wondering where content insurance should go? I see home insurance and claims, but nothing specifically for content insurance. Sorry if I am going blind. If it’s not already in the pack, can it be added and what ID would you give it? I am holding my contents insurance in 12.12A until I have the correct ID.
My daughter has been given a disability access pass, I am wondering where I should store this information? Would it be in health, under mobility perhaps or is that for official documentation?
More towards (I am not sure what to call them) “perks” … “additional support/assistance” …
I’ve also applied for carer card (for me) and young carer (for my son) and wondering where to store this information?
I am awaiting a grant for my daughter, I think that would be 13.14 gifts, prizes…?
Same place. In my head I call it ‘home and contents insurance’ even though they might be separate policies. Or, like us, you don’t insure the house as you rent it.
For disability access pass and carer cards, it sounds like something in 11.1x:
11.13 Identity cards : proof of disability / care
11.14 Licenses: proof that you have access to special services
11.16 Legal documents & certificates: serious document issued by the government
In Quebec we don’t have generic disability/carer cards, those are usually type specific (special transit passes, parking permits, entertainment passes). I’d put them in the specific ids for the activities covered. But generic disability/carer card seems a good fit for 11.13. It’s kinda like an extension of generic government insurance card (I think it’s called medicare in US? Ours is called RAMQ and we use it all the time as an ID document).
For the grant, yeah, that’s 13.13. It’s mentioned in the description:
Anything related to help you may receive from the government. e.g. student loans, concessions and grants, social security, veterans’ affairs, disability services, housing assistance, Medicare.
For example, I have there parental leave and child benefit payments.
Thank you also for the excellent Obsidian plugin – I’m new to that tool and there’s so much to learn.
Me & other living things
and as I mentioned, I’m a veteran user so would be happy to answer any questions.