# Two random questions - misc and meta **URL:** \ **Category:** Concepts\ **Created:** [March 24, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67 "2021-03-24T13:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cobblepot](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@cobblepot](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/cobblepot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/1 "2021-03-24T13:47:00Z")
1. Aside from info on the johnny decimal system, what types of categories would go in the `00-09 meta` folder? I know there’s a placeholder for an article on this, but I’m trying to imagine what the other 9 categories in the `meta` area might be. 2. Any opinion on using a `miscellaneous` folder, either as an area, as a category folder in every area, or within category folders? ---
**Author:** ![dixonge](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@dixonge](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/dixonge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/2 "2021-03-24T18:58:35Z")
1. has been addressed already [https://johnnydecimal.com/concepts/what-about-00-09/](https://johnnydecimal.com/concepts/what-about-00-09/) ---
**Author:** ![johnnydecimal](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/user_avatar/forum.johnnydecimal.com/johnnydecimal/32/1759_2.png) [@johnnydecimal](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/johnnydecimal)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/3 "2021-03-24T20:27:11Z")
I’ll get that post up asap, sorry. Could’ve sworn I’d pasted the draft here somewhere but search gives me nothing. I’m going crazy. So the `00` categories I see as being _potentially_ useful like this. This is optional, if you want to use these numbers for your own thing please do. The key is that `Management & Meta` is stuff **about the system/project, or about the area**. So: - `00-09 M&M` is an entire area and its purpose is to store things **about the system itself**. - `A0 M&M` — e.g. `10 Management & Meta` — is where you can keep things **about the area `10-19`**. - `AC.00` — e.g. `23.00` — is where you can keep things **about the category `23`**. You can think about it as ‘what’s in my system?’, or ‘about my system’, or as a system map or guide. What things might you keep? Here are some standards that might be useful. - `00 Index` - `01 Inbox` - `02 Notes` - `03 To-dos & checklists` - `04 Bookmarks` - `05 Someday` - `06, 07, 08` - free for use - `09 Archive` ---
**Author:** ![cobblepot](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@cobblepot](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/cobblepot)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/4 "2021-03-25T00:20:19Z")
Thanks! It would have been easier for me to get your meaning if, rather than saying that 00-09 is about “the system itself” (which I read as being about JD and JD only), you had said that 00-09 is about “organizing your life and projects” or “your organization system” or something more general like that. What about the `misc` question? I’m reorganizing my current folders, which include lots of ‘misc’ subfolders, and I can’t decide whether it’s fine because I’m used to using them or whether this type of catch-all category is going on enable me to avoid making decisions about content that will eventually lead to undermining the potential benefits of the JD system. ---
**Author:** ![johnnydecimal](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/user_avatar/forum.johnnydecimal.com/johnnydecimal/32/1759_2.png) [@johnnydecimal](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/johnnydecimal)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 6:04am UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/5 "2021-03-25T06:04:27Z")
Ah yes, sorry. Good question about misc, I’m basically the same. I use it sometimes but it always feels a bit dirty. I’m toying with the idea of turning **’Management & Meta’** in to **’Management, Meta, Misc’** … Sometimes you really do just have _miscellaneous stuff_. In an old project I had `19 One-off jobs` for those things that just didn’t fit anywhere else. That’s what miscellaneous is, really. Just use with caution. ---
**Author:** ![dixonge](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@dixonge](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/dixonge)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/6 "2021-03-25T10:03:12Z")
just for kicks, I counted. I have 8 folders and 10-15 files with either misc or miscellaneous as part of the title. I have an entire AREA set up for misc (40-49 Miscellaneous). Here are some samples of subfolders inside that Area: 41 Research \> 41.01 Comparisons (quick tables to compare feature/price for a potential purchase) - another file here is just me saving info about the Nazca Lines, because … reasons? 42 Career - I have two files here. _sigh_ 43 Important Documents \> titles, deeds, Florida domicile, Mexico residency, voting, Misc, Identification - I used to have a lot of these under “Finance and Legal” but found that too broad 44 Quotes - quotes as individual text files, sort of a Zettelkasten approach. This could change. 45 Reference - bookmarks backup, contacts, old files from work (I retired 4 years ago) Any and all of that could, at any given point, be moved inside some other folder. It’s just a convenient place to stick things while my system gets sorted. ---
**Author:** ![jden](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/user_avatar/forum.johnnydecimal.com/jden/32/573_2.png) [@jden](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/jden)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/7 "2024-02-28T08:00:21Z")
> [@johnnydecimal](#): > > - `02 Notes` > - `03 To-dos & checklists` Can you expand on what you actually use these areas for? I don’t think they are clear and obvious at least for me. ---
**Author:** ![johnnydecimal](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/user_avatar/forum.johnnydecimal.com/johnnydecimal/32/1759_2.png) [@johnnydecimal](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/johnnydecimal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/two-random-questions-misc-and-meta/67/8 "2024-02-28T19:51:37Z")
Not much is the answer. They’re there as a backstop. `02 Notes` is a last-resort bucket for a note that doesn’t have a home yet. Perhaps it’s a brand new thing that I haven’t designed a category for yet. Stuff shouldn’t live in there for long. Move it somewhere proper asap. `03 To-dos & checklists` I use more for the checklists: the sort of thing I might copy out elsewhere to execute. But, again, rarely. These two — everything up in `00-09`, really — are there as a last resort. Is it better to have an unlabelled note on your Desktop, or a note somewhere here? Well it’s better to have that note in its proper home, but if all else fails, you’ve got `00-09`.