# Need help integrating JD and my PKM vault in Obsidian **URL:** \ **Category:** Workbook/Workshop\ **Created:** [April 25, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/need-help-integrating-jd-and-my-pkm-vault-in-obsidian/1385 "2024-04-25T02:11:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 7
**Author:** ![Mkcmobile](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@Mkcmobile](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/u/Mkcmobile)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/need-help-integrating-jd-and-my-pkm-vault-in-obsidian/1385/7 "2024-05-01T01:14:31Z")
I don’t know anything about ACE or the other things you mention, but I implemented Johnny Decimal and leverage Obsidian (all in a single vault). For me, the J.D system helps to implement a top-down structure that marries nicely with the bottoms-up network of my ZK in Obsidian. I use a mental model of a library where the “card catalog” is the Index in J.D. There is a folder just dedicated to the catalog in the same vault and I have “cards” which correspond to each J.D ID, Category, and Area. I use the Dataview plugin to help create dynamic tables of all linked notes that tie to the top-down structure and of course I still have the links between notes themselves, though you’d have to navigate across them per usual. This allows me to quickly add a new note and link it to the appropriate card, then the card is dynamically updated showing not only whatever notes I happen to make about the category, but also a nice table of all the notes that link to it along with some properties/metadata of interest. I made a thread on this when I first implemented it here: [J.D Organized and Launched!](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/j-d-organized-and-launched/1238) I still use it and am very happy with it. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.johnnydecimal.com/t/need-help-integrating-jd-and-my-pkm-vault-in-obsidian/1385)._